Quorthon99

PC build 2019, $1100-1200 Budget.

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Hi guys! So i´m changing my pc (my current one is too old (from 2013) and with its 4gb ram, i3 3320, and r7 260x i cant do much) i want it to use mainly photoshop (i know it sounds stupid but trust me, with my current pc even that is an achievement) i want it to run fine without lag and all that.

 I´m a casual gamer not a pro one, and i am willing to play approximately 2-3 hours per day in the week, and 5-8 hours per day in the weekends. I play mostly strategy games, i´m not desperate to play the latest games with super graphics you know….with rome 2 total war running well i´m fine.

That being said, i was wondering if you could help me, or at least advice me on pc stuff, because it´s been a while since i don´t do this.

So i will start putting on the components i was thinking, because i have done some research and found some good prices, especially in newegg.com and in amazon.

Also, i have a Budget of 1100-1200 dollars.

GPU: i´m aiming for an Nvidia Ge Force GTX 1070, not Ti, just 1070. Until now, the ones that i found affordable and good at the same time are this two:

1: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126111

2: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125871

Both have 3 coolers. So with the GPU i think i´m the most decided, comparing with the other PC parts. i just want one of that two.

CPU: For the CPU i was going for an Intel I7 7th/8th generation (i would like to have 9th generation but you know, money). Now, i don´t know if it was my impression but i saw 7th generation prices very similar to the 8th generation ones, so i picked just two i7-8700 and one i7 7700 but that doesn´t mean i´m between those, i´m open to any offer.

1: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117826

2: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819117827

3:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N0L41N7/?coliid=I11O5L7U3NATBX&colid=2BHAZTSW97A4I&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Now, i don´t know anything about GHz, Turbo frecuency (i think that it is something like an overclock (?)), and Cores at all, i just see a higher number and tend to think it´s better but if you can help with that it would be good.

RAM: With ram i first wanted 12gb ram because i said, well it´s in the middle you know, between 8gb (that i consider to be enough but in a couple of years maybe not) and 16gb (that i thought it would be too much for my actual needs) but after thinking it for a while and seeing that most of the motherboards have dual socket, i now consider 16gb (2x8gb) to be better than 12gb(3x4gb).

So i searched for 16gb of ram, 2x8gb actually, and i found a lot of offers but the problem is that i don´t know any RAM memory company. The only thing i know is that a friend of mine told me that 3000MHz DDR4 is better than DDR3, so i just picked the ones that said that.

I picked a lot of RAM memories because there are a lot with the same prices.

1:https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233852&Description=16%20gb%20ram%20ddr4&cm_re=16_gb_ram_ddr4-_-20-233-852-_-Product

2:https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232298&Description=16%20gb%20ram%20ddr4&cm_re=16_gb_ram_ddr4-_-20-232-298-_-Product

3:https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232546&Description=16%20gb%20ram%20ddr4&cm_re=16_gb_ram_ddr4-_-20-232-546-_-Product

4:https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232417&Description=16%20gb%20ram%20ddr4&cm_re=16_gb_ram_ddr4-_-20-232-417-_-Product

I can continue with the list because there where too many, so i´m not considering any of these to be the definitive one, if you know about something good just say it.

SSD DISK : So i was planning to do a hybrid storage, with an internal 500gb SSD (in wich i would install Windows OS, Photoshop, a couple of useful programs, and maybe some Photoshop files) and a normal 1tb Hard Drive (in wich i would put normal files, like the rest of the programs, games, files like music…..you know the rest).

I don´t have any problems with the HD, i´ll just go and buy it, but the thing is the SSD. It´s my first time buying one so i don´t know much about it, i don´t know which companies are the best. And i don´t even know if buying a 500gb instead of a 250gb would worth it, because like i said i don´t plan to fill it that much, just the OS, Photoshop and maybe a couple of things more.

Anyway, i picked the next ones:

1: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147674

2: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP6837576

3: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820301381

4: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156173

5:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWQ9LYV/?coliid=I1F0LYPE04DTHL&colid=2BHAZTSW97A4I&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

6:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072R78B6Q/?coliid=I2RYSJKWVWB84A&colid=2BHAZTSW97A4I&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

MOTHERBOARD : Well i consider this to be the hardest one, because i don´t have any idea of motherboards, about which one is good or which one is bad. I also don´t have much idea about which motherboard is compatible with the stuff i listed before. For that reason i couldn´t search that much. I was going for the z270 because my friend has it, and he has a very similar setup, but i found that it´s not compatible with 8th or 9th generation Intel processors, so i looked for the z390 and that´s all. I don´t want a fancy motherboard, i don´t care about it´s decoration or light effects or anything, i just want it to be functional and affordable, something like between 150 - 230 dollars because my Budget would be running low at this point.

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Okay, so until here i would use my Budget (1100-1200 dollars), with the GPU, CPU, RAM, SSD Disk, and Motherboard. But i want to ask you one more thing:

POWER SUPPLY: So i have a problem with this because i was going to use my current Sentey Essential EPP650 – PS of 650 Watts of power with the new PC. But today i entered to https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator to know if it would be enough to run all the things i listed above, and the result said that i need 850w to run this PC. So that means that i have to expend more money on a new power supply. I wanted you guys to tell me if this is accurate, if i really need to change it, and in that case what power supplies you recommend.

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I know that what i ask is a lot, really, but it would very helpful to me since i really need a new PC, anyway i hope that some PC or Tech fanatics answer my call.

Thanks!!!

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On 1/12/2019 at 12:40 AM, Quorthon99 said:

So i will start putting on the components i was thinking, because i have done some research and found some good prices, especially in newegg.com and in amazon.

Also, i have a Budget of 1100-1200 dollars.

GPU: i´m aiming for an Nvidia Ge Force GTX 1070, not Ti, just 1070. Until now, the ones that i found affordable and good at the same time are this two: 

1: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126111

These cards are fine, though you may want to consider the new RTX 2060 which will come out sometime tomorrow for $350 and is faster than a 1070, roughly as fast as a 1070TI with all the new ray tracing functionality (though its the weakest ray tracing GPU in their lineup) to pay the same price you may as well grab the newest tech right? Also triple fan coolers aren't super necessary for any of those cards, it's nice but all of the cards you mentioned run quite cool.

 

On 1/12/2019 at 12:40 AM, Quorthon99 said:

CPU: For the CPU i was going for an Intel I7 7th/8th generation (i would like to have 9th generation but you know, money). Now, i don´t know if it was my impression but i saw 7th generation prices very similar to the 8th generation ones, so i picked just two i7-8700 and one i7 7700 but that doesn´t mean i´m between those, i´m open to any offer.

1: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117826

2: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819117827

3:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N0L41N7/?coliid=I11O5L7U3NATBX&colid=2BHAZTSW97A4I&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Now, i don´t know anything about GHz, Turbo frecuency (i think that it is something like an overclock (?)), and Cores at all, i just see a higher number and tend to think it´s better but if you can help with that it would be good.

If I were you I would take a serious look at the AMD Ryzen 7 2700 or the AMD Ryzen 2600. I'm actually writing a piece on those, they're pretty speedy in gaming (a few percent slower than current i7's with top end GPUs and usually dead even performance in modern games with the GPU class you're looking at running at 1080p or 1440p)

Ryzen 2600: https://amzn.to/2ANpiun $165

Ryzen 2700X: https://amzn.to/2Coivr5 $308

In Rome 2 you should see a huge performance jump with either of these CPUs, the Intel CPU may be better but those motherboards (Z170/Z270 and Z370) have no upgrade path and are dead. The current AMD motherboards have support for at least 2 new CPU cycles, so if you plan on upgrading you can save some money and not buy a new motherboard and RAM. The Ryzen 2600 is a 6 core 12 thread CPU and the Ryzen 2700X is a 8 core 16 thread CPU, while the 7700K is a 4 core 8 thread CPU and finally the 8700K is a 6 core 12 threaded CPU for roughly the same price. The Intel CPUs are faster when overclocked but you would need a nicer motherboard, cooling and the time to push the OC out.

as for the question about GHz that is the clock speed of the CPU, the AMD CPUs have lower clock speed which does mean they're a bit slower, this is evened out by the higher core count though. If you plan on keeping this system for a long time, I would get the Ryzen CPUs, you'll get more life out of them.

Side note for CPUs DO NOT BUY 100/200 Series Motherboards and buy a i7 8000 Series CPU they are uncompatable 300 series for 8000 and up 100 and 200 series for 6000 and 7000 series CPUs

As for the RAM I would get the G-Skill Kit, dont get 3 sticks of memory because that makes the ram run in single channel instead of dual (Half the speed roughly) Also DDR3 only works in older motherboards everything thats been released since 2015 or so is DDR4. IT IS INCOMPATABLE!

On 1/12/2019 at 12:40 AM, Quorthon99 said:

SSD DISK : So i was planning to do a hybrid storage, with an internal 500gb SSD (in which i would install Windows OS, Photoshop, a couple of useful programs, and maybe some Photoshop files) and a normal 1tb Hard Drive (in which i would put normal files, like the rest of the programs, games, files like music…..you know the rest).

I don´t have any problems with the HD, i´ll just go and buy it, but the thing is the SSD. It´s my first time buying one so i don´t know much about it, i don´t know which companies are the best. And i don´t even know if buying a 500gb instead of a 250gb would worth it, because like i said i don´t plan to fill it that much, just the OS, Photoshop and maybe a couple of things more.

Anyway, i picked the next ones:

1: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147674

2: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP6837576

3: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820301381

4: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156173

5:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWQ9LYV/?coliid=I1F0LYPE04DTHL&colid=2BHAZTSW97A4I&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

6:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072R78B6Q/?coliid=I2RYSJKWVWB84A&colid=2BHAZTSW97A4I&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

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I personally would get the Samsung Evo 860 500GB, 500GB drives are faster if all else is the same due to how the technology works in SSDs, they're cheap enough I would pick one of those up. Also 1TB HDDs are around the same price as 2TB HDDs, I would consider picking one of those up.

 

On 1/12/2019 at 12:40 AM, Quorthon99 said:

MOTHERBOARD : Well i consider this to be the hardest one, because i don´t have any idea of motherboards, about which one is good or which one is bad. I also don´t have much idea about which motherboard is compatible with the stuff i listed before. For that reason i couldn´t search that much. I was going for the z270 because my friend has it, and he has a very similar setup, but i found that it´s not compatible with 8th or 9th generation Intel processors, so i looked for the z390 and that´s all. I don´t want a fancy motherboard, i don´t care about it´s decoration or light effects or anything, i just want it to be functional and affordable, something like between 150 - 230 dollars because my Budget would be running low at this point.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FKT5CTH/ref=dp_cerb_1

If you do plan on buying an AMD Ryzen CPU I would pick up this motherboard. Honestly though any B450 or X470 motherboard would do.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-B450-Tomahawk/dp/B07F7W5KJS/ref=pd_sbs_147_8?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07F7W5KJS&pd_rd_r=027bea55-1856-11e9-b05e-5f057b33c572&pd_rd_w=XjUZ7&pd_rd_wg=XCVn1&pf_rd_p=7d5d9c3c-5e01-44ac-97fd-261afd40b865&pf_rd_r=MXN45XKWYNB3X93Z2SMT&psc=1&refRID=MXN45XKWYNB3X93Z2SMT

The motherboard above is the MSI B450 Tomahawk which I've recommended often for gaming builds.

 

For the PSU question, honestly I don't know how you got the 800W number, the 650W Sentry PSU should hold up, though PSUs generally last for 6-10 years after that they sort of go bad.

If you want to pick up a new one (I would) Pick up this the Coolermaster one linked here https://amzn.to/2CwSC8P

Its $70 and should last a while. If the PSU is only a few years old, then I would keep using it.

If you do decide to build the system with our recommendations I would ask you use our amazon links.

 

 

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